LSD A Shortcut to False Samadhi ~ 01

event type	interview
date & time	25 Oct 1970 pm
location	Bombay
language	English
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see also	timeline : Osho Timeline 1970 first edition : LSD: A Shortcut to False Samadhi (1971.02) other editions, translations and links
online text	find the PDF of this discourse
shorttitle	LSD01

notes

"An interview with Acharya Rajneesh by Ma Ananda Prem, Instructor, Shivananda Ashram, New York (U.S.A.) on 25th. October 1970, Bombay (India)." (Source: LSD: A Shortcut to False Samadhi.)

synopsis

Question 1

Acharayaji, before asking a question I would like to tell you my experience in meditation with special reference to controlled LSD -- experimentation I underwent.

In New York I used to study psycho-analysis. As a result of that, I became a subject in a Government sponsored experiment to study the effects of LSD. In this experiment, I was given seven small doses of LSD, over a period of two years, in a controlled situation. I had learned how to use it to awaken the Kundalini and bring meditation.

Three times I had a certain experience, which I am sure was Samadhi - of the variety with seed, in the sixth body, where I became the whole existence. I would like to describe the experience to you to get your opinion on whether or not what I experienced was true cosmic consciousness.

I sat in a meditative asana, after taking the drug, and meditated. Shortly, thereafter, the Kundalini began coming up the Sushumna from the Muladhara. I concentrated on Agna Chakra, and all the energy flowed there. From Agna, some flowed down to Anahat, releasing various tension knots there. All was very blissful.

I was aware of four colours: the colour saffron, like my clothes, was the main one, and I seemed to be enveloped in it. This was mixed with a yellow colour. Under the yeliow was white, still more subtle. And beyond the saffron, without, was a deep blue. Everything seemed to be mainly saffron though.

Suddenly, the Kundalini shot up the spine, very fast and powerful, and there was an explosion in the Agna Chakra. As a result of this, I felt that I became the whole existence, and was one with everything. Or rather, that I had dissolved completely, and the universe, was all there was. This I experienced with complete awareness and clarity such as I never had before.

This state was completely desireless, as all the cravings and desires had melted away. The feeling was one of perfect harmony. There was nothing to be desired, as everything was therein one vast present. It was as if a fog had lifted, and that the curtain of subjectivity called ego, that usually coloured my view of the outer reality, (thus separating me from it), was no longer there. All barriers and separateness between the inner and the outer were gone.

At that point, I stopped meditating because it felt as if I had reached the end of meditation and of bliss. It was thus no longer possible to meditate. My spine seemed melted down to zero tension level. Everything was perfect love, so there was no longer any craving for love. For the first time, love was not the result of any ego need, as I had no desires or needs any longer. All creation seemed to be a joyous, blissful light-hearted prank. It seemed as if the creation wanted to have fun with itself through its multitudes of energy atoms.

I then got up and walked about, but though my body was walking, it was very clear that I was not the body but the universe. The body seemed to move in front of me and all identity with it was gone.

I remained this way some twelve hours during each of the three experiences. Then the body tensions returned, drawing me back to my former way. However, I had a lot of Kundalini and very blissful meditation for two months after each experiment, such as I have never gotten with any yoga practice. When I do yoga and the usual meditation, it feels as if these practices are taking me in the same direction as these LSD experiences. I see no difference. Also, these experiences seem to match all descriptions of Samadhi with seed, or the Jivanmukta state, that I have ever read.

My questions then are:

(1) In your opinion was the experience genuine Samadhi, as I feel it was? If not, how does genuie Samadhi at the sixth body level differ, other than it being permanent.

(2) Is there any harm in occasionally using LSD only for spiritual purposes, in a controlled situation, to help meditation?

(3) Is permanent self-Realization possible with the help of a chemical like LSD?

(4) What do the colours mean?

Question 2

It was just an experiment.

Question 3

I can't find the real difference?

Question 4

What do the colours and their sequence mean?

Question 5

Acharyaji, I am trying yogic-meditation since a long time, but I am not getting any clear and basic result. What is wrong with me?

Question 6

Acharyaji, then I should use only this method for my Sadhana?

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