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'''Jun 1964''': Ranakpur is also rendered as Rankpur and Ranakput; Osho and some others say the camp was at Muchala Mahavir (with variants Muchhal, Muchhala, Mahavira and in all combinations), a half-hour drive from Ranakpur village. Perhaps it can all be considered Ranakpur district (tehsil?). Current net info suggests Muchala Mahavir is little more than a Jain temple ruin, though splendid enough to be on the tourist map. -- [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 21:11, 28 May 2014 (PDT) | |||
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'''Feb 1965 Mahableshwar''': It may be necessary to note the history of this entry to sort out a conflict among sources: originally, info was from Gyan Bhed and consisted only of a date and Mahableshwar. In Mar 2014, "''Dhyan Sutra''" was added as the discourse series, based on Doc X as a source, while querying Doc X's dates (Feb 12-15 as opposed to Gyan Bhed's Feb 12-14). That addition was consistent with previous info @ the ''Dhyan Sutra'' page which mentioned an undated camp at Mahableshwar, and "improved" it. At that time, the ''Dhyan Sutra'' page was also updated to include these dates. Now an alternative series for those dates has come along, ''Dhyan Darshan'', via Neeten. FWIW, both Neeten and Doc X's dates are Feb 12-15, so i'll update the dates but leave ''Dhyan Sutra'' for now -- [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 09:19, 13 July 2014 (PDT) | |||
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'''Mar 1966''': About ''[[Karm Aur Dhyan]]'', it was previously written that Doc X is the only source for this "discourse series" from Ahmedabad. Now [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten]] (see Osho Source Book link at his page) has also confirmed it, on that same date. -- [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 20:53, 8 July 2014 (PDT) | |||
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'''May 1966 Udaipur''': It is speculative that the discourse series is ''[[Apne Mahin Tatol (अपने माहिं टटोल)]]'', but that series is at SOME camp in Udaipur and fits in all respects, including its ten discourses in four days, the intense camp structure described by [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten]] in his Osho Source Book (see link at his page). As well, it is the first known camp in Udaipur after the 1964 Ranakpur camp, where Bhuribai first showed up and her book was an item of discussion -- updated [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 09:44, 3 August 2014 (PDT) | |||
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'''Feb 1973''': Anandshila was a piece of land donated for Osho's use and for a while was to be the World HQ of his movement, now known as Neo-Sannyas International. It turned out to be unsuitable and was soon superseded by the ashram in Pune. [[The Rebellious Enlightened Master Osho|Gyan Bhed]] has it located in the Trimurti Hills near Kalyan, [http://www.oshoworld.com/biography/innercontent.asp?FileName=biography6/06-13-Commune.txt Osho World] on "an island at Ambernath" and [[Sw Anand Neeten|Neeten]] "on 254 acres of land at Trimurti Hill, between Ambernath and Kalyan, 37 miles from Bombay," (see Osho Source Book link at his page). So take yer pick, they're all in the same general area NE of Mumbai. FWIW, Trimurti Hill or Hills cannot currently be found near Mumbai. -- [[User:Sarlo|Sarlo]] ([[User talk:Sarlo|talk]]) 11:47, 20 June 2014 (PDT) | |||
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Revision as of 16:44, 3 August 2014
Since these notes are increasing, they will be arranged chronologically, according to camp dates
Jun 1964: Ranakpur is also rendered as Rankpur and Ranakput; Osho and some others say the camp was at Muchala Mahavir (with variants Muchhal, Muchhala, Mahavira and in all combinations), a half-hour drive from Ranakpur village. Perhaps it can all be considered Ranakpur district (tehsil?). Current net info suggests Muchala Mahavir is little more than a Jain temple ruin, though splendid enough to be on the tourist map. -- Sarlo (talk) 21:11, 28 May 2014 (PDT)
Feb 1965 Mahableshwar: It may be necessary to note the history of this entry to sort out a conflict among sources: originally, info was from Gyan Bhed and consisted only of a date and Mahableshwar. In Mar 2014, "Dhyan Sutra" was added as the discourse series, based on Doc X as a source, while querying Doc X's dates (Feb 12-15 as opposed to Gyan Bhed's Feb 12-14). That addition was consistent with previous info @ the Dhyan Sutra page which mentioned an undated camp at Mahableshwar, and "improved" it. At that time, the Dhyan Sutra page was also updated to include these dates. Now an alternative series for those dates has come along, Dhyan Darshan, via Neeten. FWIW, both Neeten and Doc X's dates are Feb 12-15, so i'll update the dates but leave Dhyan Sutra for now -- Sarlo (talk) 09:19, 13 July 2014 (PDT)
Mar 1966: About Karm Aur Dhyan, it was previously written that Doc X is the only source for this "discourse series" from Ahmedabad. Now Neeten (see Osho Source Book link at his page) has also confirmed it, on that same date. -- Sarlo (talk) 20:53, 8 July 2014 (PDT)
May 1966 Udaipur: It is speculative that the discourse series is Apne Mahin Tatol (अपने माहिं टटोल), but that series is at SOME camp in Udaipur and fits in all respects, including its ten discourses in four days, the intense camp structure described by Neeten in his Osho Source Book (see link at his page). As well, it is the first known camp in Udaipur after the 1964 Ranakpur camp, where Bhuribai first showed up and her book was an item of discussion -- updated Sarlo (talk) 09:44, 3 August 2014 (PDT)
Feb 1973: Anandshila was a piece of land donated for Osho's use and for a while was to be the World HQ of his movement, now known as Neo-Sannyas International. It turned out to be unsuitable and was soon superseded by the ashram in Pune. Gyan Bhed has it located in the Trimurti Hills near Kalyan, Osho World on "an island at Ambernath" and Neeten "on 254 acres of land at Trimurti Hill, between Ambernath and Kalyan, 37 miles from Bombay," (see Osho Source Book link at his page). So take yer pick, they're all in the same general area NE of Mumbai. FWIW, Trimurti Hill or Hills cannot currently be found near Mumbai. -- Sarlo (talk) 11:47, 20 June 2014 (PDT)
